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	<title>Comments on: The Apple iPhone and MVNO: Some Thoughts</title>
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		<title>By: The All New Ewan&#8217;s Musings &#187; Motorola and the Apple iPod Phone. Is This, Actually, A Good Idea?</title>
		<link>http://www.ewanspence.com/blog/2005/07/14/the-apple-iphone-and-mvno-some-thoughts/comment-page-1/#comment-493</link>
		<dc:creator>The All New Ewan&#8217;s Musings &#187; Motorola and the Apple iPod Phone. Is This, Actually, A Good Idea?</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 03 Sep 2005 10:48:06 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] Now the post they&#8217;re referring to is &#8220;The Apple iPhone and MVNO: Some Thoughts,&#8221; where I went on about the reluctance of the networks to carry the phone. In a nutshell while they&#8217;d all be happy to make a profit on the phone, they don;t want to have their high spending geek customers load up from a PC/Mac based version of iTunes when they could happily buy over the air at an exhorbitant markup. So nothing to do with whether the iPod Phone is a really good idea. [...]</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>[...] Now the post they&#8217;re referring to is &#8220;The Apple iPhone and MVNO: Some Thoughts,&#8221; where I went on about the reluctance of the networks to carry the phone. In a nutshell while they&#8217;d all be happy to make a profit on the phone, they don;t want to have their high spending geek customers load up from a PC/Mac based version of iTunes when they could happily buy over the air at an exhorbitant markup. So nothing to do with whether the iPod Phone is a really good idea. [...]</p>
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		<title>By: AdamW</title>
		<link>http://www.ewanspence.com/blog/2005/07/14/the-apple-iphone-and-mvno-some-thoughts/comment-page-1/#comment-492</link>
		<dc:creator>AdamW</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 03 Sep 2005 08:06:28 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&quot;Do you really think they’re going to stomach paying their mobile phone company even 50p/$1 a track just to get a tune they have paid for already onto their phone? The networks think so.&quot;

I wouldn&#039;t be surprised. A sufficiently large number of people to make me doubt the general sanity of mankind already pays three times as much to get extremely dodgy midi representations of thirty seconds of the same songs to use as ring tones...</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>&#8220;Do you really think they’re going to stomach paying their mobile phone company even 50p/$1 a track just to get a tune they have paid for already onto their phone? The networks think so.&#8221;</p>
<p>I wouldn&#8217;t be surprised. A sufficiently large number of people to make me doubt the general sanity of mankind already pays three times as much to get extremely dodgy midi representations of thirty seconds of the same songs to use as ring tones&#8230;</p>
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		<title>By: Bilbo</title>
		<link>http://www.ewanspence.com/blog/2005/07/14/the-apple-iphone-and-mvno-some-thoughts/comment-page-1/#comment-441</link>
		<dc:creator>Bilbo</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 19 Jul 2005 18:03:45 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>The US mobile carrier Sprint PCS (on which most MVNOs operate in the USA) uses CDMA, not GSM, so there are no SIM cards.  Only Cingular &amp; T-Mobile offer national GSM service in the USA.  

If Apple&#039;s MVNO dreamers were smart, they&#039;d stick with Cingular or T-Mobile so that they could harness the lower costs of GSM in their acquistion of handsets &amp; customers.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>The US mobile carrier Sprint PCS (on which most MVNOs operate in the USA) uses CDMA, not GSM, so there are no SIM cards.  Only Cingular &amp; T-Mobile offer national GSM service in the USA.  </p>
<p>If Apple&#8217;s MVNO dreamers were smart, they&#8217;d stick with Cingular or T-Mobile so that they could harness the lower costs of GSM in their acquistion of handsets &amp; customers.</p>
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		<title>By: Alex</title>
		<link>http://www.ewanspence.com/blog/2005/07/14/the-apple-iphone-and-mvno-some-thoughts/comment-page-1/#comment-436</link>
		<dc:creator>Alex</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 19 Jul 2005 16:25:59 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Um, Apple does make MONEY from iPod.  They are losing money from the Music Store although there has been conflict regarding this.  

All the revenue is from iPod sales last I checked rather than the content. 

Correct me, if wrong.  

I am in the wireless business and the Apple MVNO strategy is the only way they can control the ENTIRE consumer experience from purchase, to packaging, to provisioning and support.  The network reliability is simple a carrier function and should never be given to marketing organizations.

Virgin Mobile Canada launched on Bell Mobility&#039;s network here and they&#039;re targeting teens who essentially get a select set of phones (3 at the moment) on the low-end of the scale with tons of sex and pizzazz marketed to them.  Will they succeed in Canada? Doubt it.  If Apple launched an MVNO in the US or Canada, would they succeed? You bet.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Um, Apple does make MONEY from iPod.  They are losing money from the Music Store although there has been conflict regarding this.  </p>
<p>All the revenue is from iPod sales last I checked rather than the content. </p>
<p>Correct me, if wrong.  </p>
<p>I am in the wireless business and the Apple MVNO strategy is the only way they can control the ENTIRE consumer experience from purchase, to packaging, to provisioning and support.  The network reliability is simple a carrier function and should never be given to marketing organizations.</p>
<p>Virgin Mobile Canada launched on Bell Mobility&#8217;s network here and they&#8217;re targeting teens who essentially get a select set of phones (3 at the moment) on the low-end of the scale with tons of sex and pizzazz marketed to them.  Will they succeed in Canada? Doubt it.  If Apple launched an MVNO in the US or Canada, would they succeed? You bet.</p>
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		<title>By: Phones</title>
		<link>http://www.ewanspence.com/blog/2005/07/14/the-apple-iphone-and-mvno-some-thoughts/comment-page-1/#comment-432</link>
		<dc:creator>Phones</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 16 Jul 2005 17:00:38 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;strong&gt;An iPhone Network?&lt;/strong&gt;

If the stories are correct that the major U.S. carriers don&#039;t want to distribute an Apple iPhone because they&#039;d lose music sales, this rumor could be their worst nightmare....</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p><strong>An iPhone Network?</strong></p>
<p>If the stories are correct that the major U.S. carriers don&#8217;t want to distribute an Apple iPhone because they&#8217;d lose music sales, this rumor could be their worst nightmare&#8230;.</p>
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		<title>By: ThePodcastNetwork :: The Gadget Show &#187; Blog Archive &#187; Apple Calling.</title>
		<link>http://www.ewanspence.com/blog/2005/07/14/the-apple-iphone-and-mvno-some-thoughts/comment-page-1/#comment-428</link>
		<dc:creator>ThePodcastNetwork :: The Gadget Show &#187; Blog Archive &#187; Apple Calling.</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 14 Jul 2005 14:29:57 +0000</pubDate>
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