Comments on: Damage and Fallout: the Revisionist History of Podcasting

By: pointblog.com

pointblog.com — Wed, 07 Dec 2005 02:28:35 +0000

Wikipedia, Adam Curry et Podcast : Wikigate ?

Peut-on parler de Wikigate ? Le fondateur de cette encyclop�die collaborative Jimmy Wales va-t-il devoir modifier son fonctionnement ? On verra. Mais en tout cas, il y a du baston dans la blogosph�re am�ricaine � ce propos. Particuli�rement sur l’orig…

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By: Weblogsky

Weblogsky — Sat, 03 Dec 2005 18:14:42 +0000

Podcast tussle (or hustle?)

Another edit tussle at Wikipedia, this time over the history of podcasting. Adam Curry furtively removed a reference to Kevin Marks’ role in podcasting’s development, but as Kevin notes, he left an audit trail. Curry’s site is down. Daniel Terdiman…

By: PodTech Comments from the PodTech Gallery » WikiGate and Dave’s Ownership in PodShow?

Sat, 03 Dec 2005 18:08:03 +0000

[...] Yesterday was an interesting day for Adam and PodShow. First of all I’m a big fan of the PodShow guys and their plans. But Adam being called out for the “WikiGate” and then Dave Winer’s bomb yesterday was interesting. [...]

By: Ewan

Ewan — Fri, 02 Dec 2005 21:04:33 +0000

Glitch,

It may show that Wikipedia can be biased, but it also shows that Wikipedia is also self correcting over the medium to long term.

By: Ewan

Ewan — Fri, 02 Dec 2005 21:03:39 +0000

Michael,

My numbers are speculative, but the thinking goes like this. That 8 million is likely to be for a significant percentaage. Let’s say between a third and a half(40%). Now let’s give Podshow two to three years, which means two years from about now. VC’s will probably want a return of 4 to 5 times the investments at a minimum. So they’ll want a minimum back out of around 32 million. Which means a float or a sale in the region of 80 million.

By: The All New Ewan’s Musings » “Kevin [Marks], I Never Knew!” Says Adam Curry

Fri, 02 Dec 2005 20:48:58 +0000

[...] Now that’s interesting. My previous post on The History of Podcasting, was always intended to drive the argument forward, beyond the Wikipedia editing. Remember, always try to contribute something to an argument. Looks like I did. Spotted this on the Adam Curry’s weblog, and excuse me if I post it in full… Wow, I stand corrected. Thanks to this posting [My previous post - Ewan] I was able to find this video of Kevin Marks demoing an applescript downloading mp3 enclosures straight to his ipod. I stand corrected. I never saw this demonstration and it shows a lot more of the history of ‘audio on the web’ than I’ve been aware of. [...]

By: GLITCH P-UDDING

GLITCH P-UDDING — Fri, 02 Dec 2005 19:34:27 +0000

all this has done is expose wikipedia as a heavily biased (in multiple directions at once) source of information. curry wasn’t any more opinionated and malicious than anyone editing that entry.

and now dave winer is adding his thoughts to the matter…which always makes everything worse.

By: jimmy crackhead

jimmy crackhead — Fri, 02 Dec 2005 17:53:14 +0000

A great day for Pocast history/gossip 101. What a waste of a day off reading all this. I should be at work getting paid to absorb all this.

By: Michael Ridley

Michael Ridley — Fri, 02 Dec 2005 16:47:18 +0000

Now they can do that by a super long term view, or a build it up, float it at IPO and run away. All the indicators that I can see (management, stafffing, accquistions, employee relations) point to a company that’s running to IPO as fast as possible. Which in my mind is a float/buyout for around $80 million in about two years (please discuss) and everyone cashing.

Well I would say that VCs (at least the ones I’m familiar with) are looking for the big cash out pretty much 100% of the time. I don’t know of too many VCs (any) that are really interested in “long term” investments. 5-10 years tops.

I am interested in your numbers though. It’s so speculative at this point, it’s hard to say, but I wonder where you got the $80 MM number from? I’d say it’s more likely to either crash and burn or become the Google Adsense of audio and make some “real money”.

I just saw an article linked to on slashdot yesterday about how Google says that 2005 is the tipping point for print advertising moving online. Sure, it’s taken 10 years to get there. But my bet is it’ll be faster with radio. And the radio advertising pie is a lot bigger than $80 MM.

My two cents, from an outsider’s perspective.

-m

By: brian moffatt

brian moffatt — Fri, 02 Dec 2005 16:44:10 +0000

Sounds like Curry is currently revising his revision.

“…only this time I wanted to write the reality from my perspective. Isn’t that what WikiPedia is for? Am I not allowed to ‘change history’?”

Egad. He’s obviously lost his mind.